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Bye,Bye A4LD...5-Speed in???????????????


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85 Bronco II. 2.8L 85,000 org. miles. Know the history. I am second owner. Put in a rebuilt A4LD 1500miles ago. Front seal gone already. No warranty left. BTW this is third tranny. How hard to swap to 5 speed?
 
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clutch pedals, master (attached to pedals), clutch fluid line, manual tranny (m5od is best), 4L clutch, starter, and flywheel, ummmm alittle wiring for neutral safety and reverse lights.
 

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Ever do a clutch or replace an auto? Its not too much harder.
 

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I know the basic's. Have a couple ?????? Who has done one this swap???
what about trans cross member? rear drive shaft? What years are best for pedal assb.?
 
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if youre taking out an a4ld, your trans cross member and drive shafts are just fine how they are, wont need to be swapped. the pedals need to come out of a 1st gen, thats all

if you can swap a transmission, you can do this swap. the 4.0 clutch and starter are not required but they are a nice upgrade if youre buying a clutch anyways
 

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If you go to the M5 the d-shaft and cross member are ok. A FM145 will require moving the member forward and a longer shaft.

The pedals can come out of any 1st gen. if you are already buying a flywheel and clutch, get the 4.0 parts. much nicer.
 

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If you go to the M5 the d-shaft and cross member are ok. A FM145 will require moving the member forward and a longer shaft.
thats true, thanks for pointing that out. i guess i just dont see the mitsu as an upgrade lol
 

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85 Bronco II. 2.8L 85,000 org. miles. Know the history. I am second owner. Put in a rebuilt A4LD 1500miles ago. Front seal gone already. No warranty left. BTW this is third tranny. How hard to swap to 5 speed?
Yep, this is exactly the problem everyone has on the A4LD and you got screwed because your rebuilder doesn't know about it. They just slap new soft parts in.

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Now, if you really want to swap in a 5-speed, you are going to need enough parts that the only viable option is to find a donor vehicle. The list of stuff you need is long. If you are going to bother, it would be good if a 4.0 were attached to the input shaft of that 5-speed.

For the work and money, and since all of your A4LD parts are basically new, send them your bellhousing is the best bet.
 

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thats true, thanks for pointing that out. i guess i just dont see the mitsu as an upgrade lol
While the M5 is superior to the FM145, I got many miles and years of reliable service out of mine. I was actually a little sad to see it go (my fault) especially because I loved that shifter. That said, a Fred Flintstone trans would be an upgrade from the A4LD.

Yabba Dabba DOOOO!!!
 

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what are you going to do with the old a4ld pm me if you want to get rid of it
 

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what u mean u can only used the gen 1 pedals? could u not use the gen 2 pedals aswell? like from a 89 bronco?
 

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When I did this it wasn't to bad and well worth it.I have gen 2 peddles in mine m50d tranny lined up everywhere front back.I used this time to put in a 4.0 if you can find a good donor do that.I'll bet that I walked 20 miles for that A4LD loosing fluid out the front seal and it took a while but I trust my B2 again.
 

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ok so the gen 2 pedals will work? i think my m5od is the earlier version (not 93 or 94) probably 91-92 since the slave is different than on my dads 93 ranger...
 

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what if i have a 98 explorer for donor will the petals work or can i buy the petals
 

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I dunno if the 98 Ex pedals will work.

If you really can't find a set of manual trans pedals for a 1st or 2nd gen PM me, I know where I can find a few good sets at the local junk yard.
 

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im actually thinkin of doin this same swap my dad did it to my ranger and i got the 4 speed automatic in my bronco II and its slippin bad but he told me it was pretty easy
 

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