1989 FX4 BII, resto-mod project

[kroussinoffroad]

X2 i believe waggy 44's even tho narrower wheel to wheel have the same spring width as a fullwidth D44

 

[Boggin]

i'm lucky enough to find a d30 let alone a 44. when this 30 comes out it will be replaced by a 60.

 

[kroussinoffroad]

which i believe may also have the same spring width since its a 1 for 1 swap in a leaf sprung f-250 hahaha.

 

[Boggin]

i see.. ill have to search for the spring width and see what i can come up with.

 

[Boggin]

32" center-center seems to be the width for the spring perches. thats what this guy used on his D44. http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/Dana44_leafspring_conversion.htm

im gonna make spring perches out of some square tube and my buddys plasma, and same with the spring hangers.

Should i run the shackles mounted on the rear of the leaf or the front? I was thinking the rear but i've seen a few rigs on here with em mounted on front.
Also does anyone know the diameter of the D30 axle tubes? its of a cherokee im guessing from the early 90s
I plan to follow this build a bit..

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=145311

 

[Bennybooster]

rear shackles are the best

 

[Boggin]

i think we have a winner...

really liking the looks of this one

 

[Boggin]

only thing is my mounts will bolt to the frame, not welded on. and im kinda thinking now that, unfortunately, im gonna have to re-design my bumper mounts because they bolt right on to the outside of the frame. so ill probably just have the mounts for the bumper bolting to the inside of the chassis and the spring mounts will bolt to the outside and the bottom of the chassis

 

[kroussinoffroad]

search thru pirate the front v.s. rear debate is almost as bad as ford v.s. chevy.
when we did the sas on the B2 we litterally just looked for which way was easier. so on the front they went putting them on the rear woulda made caster angle great pinion angle on the other hand woulda been crap without turning the inner c's. you should have it o.k. since your perch wont be built into the center section like the waggy 44 and several other leaf sprung front axles. if you do your hangers just like that and use the wishbone style shackle (factory rear) you could allways swap the shackle to the front if you ever do decide to run a 44 or 60 (without axle modification)

 

[Boggin]

thanks man. i found a set of 4.11s on my local offroad forum used for $120. need to find out what gears are in the cherokee now and who i can find to put them in.

 

[--weezl--]

imo, the front/rear debate can be summed up simply here...

front shackles perform better as when the spring compresses (hitting a rock) the axle moves forward slightly, helping the tire bump over the obstacle, where as with a rear shackle, it moves away from the obstacle.

REAR shackle is better for beating, basically if your shackle hits an obstacle (on the front) you're going to bend the spring in a way it isn't designed to bend, and most likely break the spring... this can be counter acted by a skid plate that covers the shackle completely

 

[kroussinoffroad]

thanks man. i found a set of 4.11s on my local offroad forum used for $120. need to find out what gears are in the cherokee now and who i can find to put them in.

WHOA 120$ check out usa standard gears on randys ring and pinon, a little more money but then your gettin spankin new gears.

 

[kroussinoffroad]

bottom line is you will never know the difference till you do it yourself. ive set them up both ways and didnt notive a huge difference either way in ride quality. (from the highway to flogging them thru fire ruts. did a shackel reversal on a jeep and it didnt feel any different to me (maybe im deaf to the difference IDK )

aparently your more likely do damage a spring with them in the front but have yet to have a spring failure on any of the vehicles that i run with that have them in the front either. however we dont have much for rock crawling more mud than anything so that might make a big difference

 

[disciplerocks]

i think we have a winner...

really liking the looks of this one

Dude plug in your ipad.

 

[Boggin]

bottom line is you will never know the difference till you do it yourself. ive set them up both ways and didnt notive a huge difference either way in ride quality. (from the highway to flogging them thru fire ruts. did a shackel reversal on a jeep and it didnt feel any different to me (maybe im deaf to the difference IDK )

aparently your more likely do damage a spring with them in the front but have yet to have a spring failure on any of the vehicles that i run with that have them in the front either. however we dont have much for rock crawling more mud than anything so that might make a big difference

Yeah that's what I'm thinking so I think I'll try to mount them on the rear..

Dustin: hardy har har


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[Boggin]

still thinking about this axle swap.. never realized i had a ford 9" and straight dana 44 sitting on the garage floor.. hmmm....

 

[kroussinoffroad]

so you have two late 70's fullsize's now? and you still dont want to go fullwidth on the b-2?

need i say more?

 

[Boggin]

lol,, 'nuff said. im thinking if im gonna go through all the work of puttin in a set of straight axles i might as well do it right hte first time and use the set i already have instead of spending more money on shitter axles..

 

[kris97ranger]

Look at displerocks build thread. it took him an afternoon

 

[Boggin]

threw a battery in her and fired her up tonight, shes in snow up to the rocker panels and she wouldnt get out of it because of a broken front u joint which limits me to only 2wd, and the bald 31s dont help, and theres nothing in front of me to winch on to, but my brother gets home tomorrow so im gonna get a tow out from him and then ill probably put her in the garage and rip out the ttb.

i would of towed her out with my 79 f150 but she was out of gas at the time