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npscarecrow

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Can I swap a 2.9 out of a 87 and put it in a 89, and if so what issues may come up. I've heard things about the knock sensor and egr systems being different.
 


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There are differences. Not major ones but ones to be aware.

The 87 has a EGR system. The 89 does not. 87 is banked full injection while 89 is, I forget the word, I want to say multiport, but I think it is correct, both have same amount of injectors and such it just comes down to how they are controlled.

The ports on the 87 throttle body are larger than the 89.

So if you move the engine there is other stuff tailored to the one engine like the ECU that moves. I don't know how much wiring difference there is. Obviously some. And other accessories like alternator may differ (I was told there was 2 or 3 styles of alternator on the 87.

I've never done an engine swap, just know of these few differences. I don't know what the best way to deal with them.

I don't think basic block hasn't changed so swapping the short block I think should work, but don't take my word on that. If you are moving it as a long block you have the wiring and ECU differences.

I've heard of people putting an 88 ECU in an 87 and deleting the EGR functionality. And heard something about how the bigger throttle body ports combined with the 88 computer can yield better fuel economy (88 and 89 computer I think are pretty much the same, both are non EGR)

That's the extend of my knowledge with a bit of rumor tossed in there.

Good luck.
 

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I did this with a '90 computer and an '87 engine in an '89 Bronco II. The EGR didn't matter - your '89 exhaust manifold is blocked off at the factory so just use that and use the '89 intake manifold and you won't have to deal with that ugliness. When I did it, I have actually run the same motor with both wiring harnesses ('87 and '89). It will be pretty much straight across.
 

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Can I also swap the transmission from the 87 into the 89
 

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Can I also swap the transmission from the 87 into the 89
I expect no big deal if you really wanted to, but might find you need to move transfer case and drive shafts. There were some different trans combinations. I am not sure when the Mazda M5OD started showing up and even if they hit the B2s. That is the one I hear talked about as the preferred one. The 87, unless it has an upgraded trans wouldn't have that.

I am only familiar with the Mitsubishi FM145 and FM146 trans. A manual 87 there is a good chance it has the 145 trans, the 89, if it has the Mitsubishi manual trans will have the 146. Dimensionally the same so will go no problem. The 146 is supposed to have some improvement, so not sure if that is a good swap putting in a145 if they were both Mitsubishi trans you have.
 

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You could also have the A4LD auto which will swap directly over as well.
 

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