43" tires on a BII

[D'cheat]

Can it be done, with no lift what so ever? YOU BET! Check it out, cause im tired of posting it up over and over by request on various wheeling sites
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=12119247#post12119247


D'cheat

 

[country0001]

That'll be pretty sweet. But technically, heis doing a sas w different springs,so some lift will be achieved by that. If he was putting those on a stock b2. Well that would be different. Still sweet.

 

[Little X]

That'll be pretty sweet. But technically, heis doing a sas w different springs,so some lift will be achieved by that. If he was putting those on a stock b2. Well that would be different. Still sweet.

He's just talking about the rear end. It's on stock springs, the only "lift" would be an inch or so from the thicker axle underneath. If you looked at the thread he hasn't even started on the front.

 

[disciplerocks]

With that tall of a tire, you wouldn't want much lift or you will roll it on the first hill you climb.

 

[D'cheat]

Yea, its stock height as far as the springs are concerned. No lift aside from the additional diameter of the axle tubes. Ill be keeping the front the same way, only moved about 10" forward. I want to keep this truck as low as possible to keep the center of gravity as close to stock as I can. Ive seen far to many ranger's and BIIs lifted sky high to clear the fenders. Hell, im guilty of that as well. But i learned my lessons. And taking a page from competition rigs, im only going to have about 5" of up travel and Gobs of droop This should be one capable rig when Im done.

 

[RUTH]

saw this on pirate man, thanks lol...cant wait to see this thing done... will be awesome for sure

 

[D'cheat]

When its done, ill need to tow my junk north so we can go wheelin. Are there any good trails up in your neck of the desert?

 

[RUTH]

to be honest i dont know yet, im thinkin not as i have seen only a few capable looking trucks around since i have been here, i have explored some, but try not to be to adventurous alone... some of the spots were alot of fun dont get me wrong, but not worth traveling for, we would be better off to meet at Moonrocks or maybe the rubicon if its not all paved over by the next year or so...

 

[RUTH]

o, i just saw you live in reno lol, i thought you were far away... you must know im in winnemucca we should def meet up somtime, i heard you can get to reno on nothing but dirt roads???

if you ever need some help or advice, pics let me know


what are your plans for the front??

you have any pics of your old build?? the red B2, and i also used to race cars before wheelin, so much fun..

 

[heptofite]

i don't think i could ever feel okay with cutting into a body in that good of shape.

 

[D'cheat]

o, i just saw you live in reno lol, i thought you were far away... you must know im in winnemucca we should def meet up somtime, i heard you can get to reno on nothing but dirt roads???

Yes, you can Ive run a few of those roads with my rally car. There are spots that get rather gnarly. Ive never gone the entire way, though.

if you ever need some help or advice, pics let me know

Cool, man. i will.

what are your plans for the front??

you have any pics of your old build?? the red B2, and i also used to race cars before wheelin, so much fun..

Dana 60 front, 5.13 gears, detroit locker, 16" airshocks and a standard 3 link. Just like yours, but with airshocks. And a D60..

And like you, ballistic fab is dragging thier feet with the damn shipment. Got the brackets in a few days after ordering. The the hiems and airshocks are taking forever.

No pix of the old BII. I kinda got rid of her under bad circumstances, and got rid of most of the pictures due to it.
See the link for details on that one. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=12022293#post12022293


I loved rally with a passion, but its getting too serious to be any fun. If your too fast on a stage and two competitors bitch, then you have to tear down your engine, nut and bolt to prove you didnt do anything against the rules. Dont ask me how I know this..

Heh, I was going to make a hooker joke about getting used to cutting a body in such good shape.... But I digress. :icon_rofl:

 

[RUTH]

yeah im still waiting for my deal on a 60, did you have the white subaru i saw on CL?? looked sweet

i thought alot about air shocks, but heard they like to fluctuate with temp. and sometimes just unload when your at a hard sidehill?? idk though, plus the coils were cheaper so it sorta made up my mind for me hahaa, but cant wait to see this thing, hope you do a build thread, and ballistic, i like em, but took me t months to get my shitt

 

[The Jester Race]

Can it be done, with no lift what so ever? YOU BET! Check it out, cause im tired of posting it up over and over by request on various wheeling sites
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=12119247#post12119247


D'cheat

I hate you. I'm just finishing up my BII and now you have me second guessing myself. Im sitting at about 8" of lift on 37s. Thinking I need to lose two or three inches and take more out of the fenders.

Looking good, cant wait to see it when its done.

-Jester

 

[D'cheat]

Yup. That was my rally car. I miss it soooo much. I have a few trophies on the shelf cause of it. I hated to sell her but, she funded my crawler. So meh.

Airshocks are not that bad. No worse than coilovers. Really any rig with a long travel suspension needs to use a center limiting strap f/r to keep from unloading. The guys in competition say that the strap should have about 3" of slack at ride height. This will allow for regular suspension movement and good'ol left/right flex, but holds you down when on steep climbs or deep side hills.
The main reason that im using airshocks is the ability to have constant dampening during suspension articulation. A good example is your rig, Ruth. I have a funny feeling that when your suspension has flexed to the point of your coils sliding down the retainer, it tips abruptly toward that side once you come off the obstacle. Thats because for that moment, there is nothing holding up your rig on that side until the coil comes in contact with the coil bucket once more. Moments like that cause rollovers so often. With airshocks, you always have some sort of support. Be it full extension or compression. Your rig will not have a moment when its not being supported by dampening.

And they are cheaper and easier to tune that coilovers. A few cc's of oil here, some more nitrogen there and you have a new shock. Coilovers require multiple sets of coils to get everything just right. Then the coils sag over time and you have to do it all over again. $$$
All my airshocks will need is a shot of nitrogen every now and again. Far less $$$

 

[The_Dealer]

thats kinda like what im wanting to do with 4" and 38's...make sure u go into alot of detail of building your rear inners for me, and how they look from the inside and how much pass room was taken up

 

[D'cheat]

Dont second guess yourself. You had a plan when you did your BII. Stick to it Besides, your BII looks like it could eat a jeep alive. Keep it just the way you have it!

I hate you. I'm just finishing up my BII and now you have me second guessing myself. Im sitting at about 8" of lift on 37s. Thinking I need to lose two or three inches and take more out of the fenders.

Looking good, cant wait to see it when its done.

-Jester

 

[D'cheat]

Here ya go. RUTH has been down this road. Exactly what im doing. Im just doing.. uhh.. more so. That and I plan on keeping the back seats.

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=783562&page=3

thats kinda like what im wanting to do with 4" and 38's...make sure u go into alot of detail of building your rear inners for me, and how they look from the inside and how much pass room was taken up

 

[The Jester Race]

Dont second guess yourself. You had a plan when you did your BII. Stick to it Unless you are willing to relocate your axle forward, then you need that height for the 37's to clear the firewall. Hell, im scooting mine forward to the point of hitting the front grill to clear these. But then again, im willing to chop my BII up to the point of looking goofy to get it to perform better.

My axle is already forward, 6". It would be pretty easy to lose 2", lose the blocks in the rear and take 2" out of the front shackles. I'll have to see how it works, if it feels too tipsy I have options. I'm not afraid to chop mine, its not a daily driver it still frequents the pavement so it needs to be legal and somewhat comfortable.

Here is a pic of mine before any fender trimming.

 

[RUTH]

Yup. That was my rally car. I miss it soooo much. I have a few trophies on the shelf cause of it. I hated to sell her but, she funded my crawler. So meh.

Airshocks are not that bad. No worse than coilovers. Really any rig with a long travel suspension needs to use a center limiting strap f/r to keep from unloading. The guys in competition say that the strap should have about 3" of slack at ride height. This will allow for regular suspension movement and good'ol left/right flex, but holds you down when on steep climbs or deep side hills.
The main reason that im using airshocks is the ability to have constant dampening during suspension articulation. A good example is your rig, Ruth. I have a funny feeling that when your suspension has flexed to the point of your coils sliding down the retainer, it tips abruptly toward that side once you come off the obstacle. Thats because for that moment, there is nothing holding up your rig on that side until the coil comes in contact with the coil bucket once more. Moments like that cause rollovers so often. With airshocks, you always have some sort of support. Be it full extension or compression. Your rig will not have a moment when its not being supported by dampening.

And they are cheaper and easier to tune that coilovers. A few cc's of oil here, some more nitrogen there and you have a new shock. Coilovers require multiple sets of coils to get everything just right. Then the coils sag over time and you have to do it all over again. $$$
All my airshocks will need is a shot of nitrogen every now and again. Far less $$$

yes true and very understandable... and i actual dont like the coil dropping out like that, yeah cool for flex, but i have learned that flex isn't everything, yes it helps but like you were saying, with the coil able to drop out, at certain times of wheeling their wont be any wait from the front axle and tire keeping that part of the vehicle down... im sure it sounds as i rambled which i did, but hope it makes since...


and on another note as you seem very negligible, jumping with air shocks, is it bad??? i mean maybe 3 -5 max, do they take the landings similar to a coil-over, or ??? just curios, really never thought about it till now

 

[RUTH]

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this is sweet...

just had to

only thing i could maybe suggest, is if you do lower it and you end up reworking the front chackes, i was always told having them at a close to 45 degrees is best for a good ride and aloowence for the leafe to get full advantage of stuffing, and dropping out, just incase you didnt know, but still two thumbs up, like that alot:icon_thumby::icon_thumby: