Forget the Cardone pump

[CopyKat]

Lets go full Saginaw!

 

[rickcdewitt]

so you finally figured out why it wouldn't work for you?spinning the pump backwards?

 

[CopyKat]

so you finally figured out why it wouldn't work for you?spinning the pump backwards?

I have no clue as to why it wasn't working before.:icon_confused: I knew this setup came off a running working truck. So it was known to be a good pump.

 

[rickcdewitt]

so you pretty much made a bracket and it plopped right on?

 

[mjonesjr]

What does your bracket look like?

 

[CopyKat]

What does your bracket look like?

Some may say like Ass, and others may say it looks functional.

It's no where near done yet. I've got the compressor to mount up still.

 

[AKBroncoII]

Which pump did you go with? How well did the lines work or did you have to redo the pressure line?

 

[CopyKat]

Which pump did you go with? How well did the lines work or did you have to redo the pressure line?

The pump was off an Econoline 302. Same with the lines.

 

[BDAB]

yep, dumped the toyota pump and went saginaw on the LC, more responsive steering and a pump that any parts store will have. nice

 

[CopyKat]

The pump was off an Econoline 302. Same with the lines.

More info on the original pump is that it's a non Serp setup. You need to find the serp setup for the pulley. The stock RBV pulley will not work with the Saginaw pump. Nearly all the ford steering gears are the same in the RBV, F series and e-series, so any of the lines should bolt up if they are for the Saginaw box.

So far it's been great. I'll be pulling the bracket and beefing it up some. I've got another one to make for a buddy of mine. I've got all the files in cad format for the flat plates. Might get a bunch lazer cut.

 

[mjonesjr]

Might get a bunch lazer cut.

Hey hey, there you go!

 

[Ranger44]

I just used the saginaw pump designated as a HD replacement for a 79' T-bird. Shares the same 3 bolt pattern. Have it mounted on my 2.3's bracket right now. Will be swapping it over to my 4.0.

 

[Totalled]

Why do you have the res clocked over so far? Clearance issues?

 

[AKBroncoII]

My guess would be clearance for ac compressor. What pulley's are you guys using? My steering pump is new and loud. I'm sick of these remanned pumps.

 

[AKBroncoII]

The pump I searched through for a T bird does not look like a saginaw pump.

 

[Ranger44]

Same pump. Different shape of resivoir. It's an all metal Saginaw pump.

 

[CopyKat]

Why do you have the res clocked over so far? Clearance issues?

It's no where near done yet. I've got the compressor to mount up still.

What pulley's are you guys using? My steering pump is new and loud. I'm sick of these remanned pumps.

The pulley I'm using is one from a 90's E150 serpentine setup. The one from a Dodge Dakota could work it just has one or two more grooves to the pulley. The Cardone pumps are also a reman pump. Just don't know the true application, or if it's a "Replacement" for the ford pump.

 

[AKBroncoII]

The tbird pump was very expensive remanned. Very near the cost of an AGR pump.

 

[Ranger44]

The tbird pump was very expensive remanned. Very near the cost of an AGR pump.

huh, I only paid $80 for mine. That's only $30 more than a reman POS plastic pump.

 

[CopyKat]

Likely one of the Cardone pumps. Like I said in other posts the cardone pump is getting harder and harder to find and is becomming more expensive because they don't rebuild them any more.

I didn't want to mess with one of these pumps as they are over $180 with a core. $240 without a core, around here.

The saginaw pump is $60 with a core. That is Just the pump not the can.

I'm not sure if I have a DXF file of the brackets. I know I have a CAD file but I don't have a way to access it Just yet. If I get the DXF I could send you a file Andrew if you want. You still have access to the tools to make these. I know you were fed up with the shop you are working for now. You still with them?